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	<title>Comments on: Rent a house, not an apartment  &#8211; a cost comparison</title>
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		<title>By: jamie</title>
		<link>http://www.frugalistajapan.com/2009/03/rent-a-house-not-an-apartment-a-cost-comparison/comment-page-1/#comment-575</link>
		<dc:creator>jamie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Mar 2010 12:34:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeh, private lessons are quite expensive and not really worth it in my opinion. How about getting a Japanese girlfriend? 

Also, advice taken - I&#039;ve installed that particular plugin and it should be showing up down there now. Please let me know if you don&#039;t see it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeh, private lessons are quite expensive and not really worth it in my opinion. How about getting a Japanese girlfriend? </p>
<p>Also, advice taken &#8211; I&#8217;ve installed that particular plugin and it should be showing up down there now. Please let me know if you don&#8217;t see it.</p>
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		<title>By: Jonas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jonas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Mar 2010 04:14:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kyoto&#039;s treating me well... but I&#039;m a little desperate on the learning Japanese front. Proper courses here are ridiculously expensive and I haven&#039;t found a promising platform for privately tought lessons yet. There surely are the odd adverts here and there about private tutoring for an average of 2000 Yen an hour but that&#039;s not really an option if I want to expose myself to Japanese constantly, while still managing my English/German job.
I know enough people who learned Japanese by going for a drink, but I&#039;m too impatient for that. :)

By the way, you may retain user conversations easier if you use one of these plugins, as I suppose you use wordpress:
http://txfx.net/wordpress-plugins/subscribe-to-comments/

I had to do a google search for my name on this blog in order to find where I left comments.

All the best,
Jonas</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kyoto&#8217;s treating me well&#8230; but I&#8217;m a little desperate on the learning Japanese front. Proper courses here are ridiculously expensive and I haven&#8217;t found a promising platform for privately tought lessons yet. There surely are the odd adverts here and there about private tutoring for an average of 2000 Yen an hour but that&#8217;s not really an option if I want to expose myself to Japanese constantly, while still managing my English/German job.<br />
I know enough people who learned Japanese by going for a drink, but I&#8217;m too impatient for that. <img src='http://www.frugalistajapan.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>By the way, you may retain user conversations easier if you use one of these plugins, as I suppose you use wordpress:<br />
<a href="http://txfx.net/wordpress-plugins/subscribe-to-comments/" rel="nofollow">http://txfx.net/wordpress-plugins/subscribe-to-comments/</a></p>
<p>I had to do a google search for my name on this blog in order to find where I left comments.</p>
<p>All the best,<br />
Jonas</p>
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		<title>By: jamie</title>
		<link>http://www.frugalistajapan.com/2009/03/rent-a-house-not-an-apartment-a-cost-comparison/comment-page-1/#comment-565</link>
		<dc:creator>jamie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Feb 2010 05:43:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Still here :) 

Says march 31 st on my screen...

How&#039;s Kyoto treating you?

The small apartmet gets tiring quickly...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Still here <img src='http://www.frugalistajapan.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  </p>
<p>Says march 31 st on my screen&#8230;</p>
<p>How&#8217;s Kyoto treating you?</p>
<p>The small apartmet gets tiring quickly&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Jonas</title>
		<link>http://www.frugalistajapan.com/2009/03/rent-a-house-not-an-apartment-a-cost-comparison/comment-page-1/#comment-563</link>
		<dc:creator>Jonas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Feb 2010 05:06:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Really intersting stuff. To be honest, I kind of enjoy my tiny cramped apartment. Wouldn&#039;t mind one of those classical roofs though.... but I think I need to get some base first.
After London this sure ain&#039;t much worse. ;)

Still in Kyoto? The dates on here are all 31st of 2009.... 31st what?  I think something might be wrong there.... 

Cheers
Jonas</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Really intersting stuff. To be honest, I kind of enjoy my tiny cramped apartment. Wouldn&#8217;t mind one of those classical roofs though&#8230;. but I think I need to get some base first.<br />
After London this sure ain&#8217;t much worse. <img src='http://www.frugalistajapan.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Still in Kyoto? The dates on here are all 31st of 2009&#8230;. 31st what?  I think something might be wrong there&#8230;. </p>
<p>Cheers<br />
Jonas</p>
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		<title>By: jamie</title>
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		<dc:creator>jamie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jan 2010 08:17:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Denise. How is your Japanese? If you can read kanji on the computer, and speak it fine, then most agencies usually have apartments for cases of no guarantor , a quick google search for &quot;保証人なし 京都市&quot;  (HOSHOUNIN NASHI KYOUTOSHI) in Kyoto found the following agency：

http://sumaity.com/t-004-N-N-N-11502/5-26/

That page will take you straight to the area selection for kyoto city apartments that dont need a guarantor, but its all in Japanese. There aren&#039;t many place available, but at least there&#039;s something. 

If you can&#039;t speak any Japanese, your only other option is to go with a foreigner centred and shared guest house, like the ones here:

http://www.kyoto-apartment.com/index.html

I realise the idea of a guesthouse might be a little offputting, but since short-stays are ok it would give you a chance to look around more thoroughly for apartments that don&#039;t need a guarantor, maybe with some new japanese-speaking friends you find there; or it would give the time to speak with your boss and have them act as a guarantor, as most are usually willing if you ask them directly - it is a problem every foreigner here faces, and anyone willing to employ a foreigner must also accept responsibility partially for their wellbeing! (But they can&#039;t take an official stance of &quot;we will act as guarantor if you work for us&quot;)

Hope that helps somewhat.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Denise. How is your Japanese? If you can read kanji on the computer, and speak it fine, then most agencies usually have apartments for cases of no guarantor , a quick google search for &#8220;保証人なし 京都市&#8221;  (HOSHOUNIN NASHI KYOUTOSHI) in Kyoto found the following agency：</p>
<p><a href="http://sumaity.com/t-004-N-N-N-11502/5-26/" rel="nofollow">http://sumaity.com/t-004-N-N-N-11502/5-26/</a></p>
<p>That page will take you straight to the area selection for kyoto city apartments that dont need a guarantor, but its all in Japanese. There aren&#8217;t many place available, but at least there&#8217;s something. </p>
<p>If you can&#8217;t speak any Japanese, your only other option is to go with a foreigner centred and shared guest house, like the ones here:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.kyoto-apartment.com/index.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.kyoto-apartment.com/index.html</a></p>
<p>I realise the idea of a guesthouse might be a little offputting, but since short-stays are ok it would give you a chance to look around more thoroughly for apartments that don&#8217;t need a guarantor, maybe with some new japanese-speaking friends you find there; or it would give the time to speak with your boss and have them act as a guarantor, as most are usually willing if you ask them directly &#8211; it is a problem every foreigner here faces, and anyone willing to employ a foreigner must also accept responsibility partially for their wellbeing! (But they can&#8217;t take an official stance of &#8220;we will act as guarantor if you work for us&#8221;)</p>
<p>Hope that helps somewhat.</p>
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		<title>By: Denise</title>
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		<dc:creator>Denise</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jan 2010 07:57:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Jamie. I am moving to Kyoto in a couple of months - have job etc . But can&#039;t get agents to respond to me. The only one that did said I need a Japanese guarantor which I can&#039;t produce. I will be working for a universiity and they are not set up to act as guarantors. Any tips on agents to contact?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Jamie. I am moving to Kyoto in a couple of months &#8211; have job etc . But can&#8217;t get agents to respond to me. The only one that did said I need a Japanese guarantor which I can&#8217;t produce. I will be working for a universiity and they are not set up to act as guarantors. Any tips on agents to contact?</p>
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		<title>By: jamie</title>
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		<dc:creator>jamie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jan 2010 08:29:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>By &quot;my price&quot; I assume you mean the prices in the article? They&#039;re no so extraordinary to be honest.

I&#039;ve always gone through an agent - just tell them you want somewhere with low or zero key money, and tell them your rent price range, they&#039;ll usually be able to find you a few possibilities. I haven&#039;t had any bad experiences with any particular agent here, so I cant really recommend any over others.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By &#8220;my price&#8221; I assume you mean the prices in the article? They&#8217;re no so extraordinary to be honest.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve always gone through an agent &#8211; just tell them you want somewhere with low or zero key money, and tell them your rent price range, they&#8217;ll usually be able to find you a few possibilities. I haven&#8217;t had any bad experiences with any particular agent here, so I cant really recommend any over others.</p>
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		<title>By: James</title>
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		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Jan 2010 14:29:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Jamie,
I live in Kyoto and I am trying to find a house to rent around your price or cheaper if possible.
Any recommendation?
Thanks
James</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Jamie,<br />
I live in Kyoto and I am trying to find a house to rent around your price or cheaper if possible.<br />
Any recommendation?<br />
Thanks<br />
James</p>
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		<title>By: jamie</title>
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		<dc:creator>jamie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jan 2010 03:20:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hi birdie, sorry i didnt get around to answering sooner. 

i cant point you towards a specific company or housing site, my friend used to live in a similar one room thing near kyoto university. he paid around 30,000 / month, and it included most stuff. there was no moving in costs either, i believe. very much designed for cheap-ass students. it was however, quite a horribly dirty place. i dont think internet was included either. 

if your budget went up to maybe 50,000 you could quite a nice place though still small, and you may also need to think about initial moving in costs like the famous key-money and deposit which is usually around 3 months rent. dont worry too much about washing machine or fridge etc as theyre cheap second hand, not even 5000 yen for both. 

theres also accomodation on campus, i believe, but youll have to ask the university about that (i assume you&#039;ll be a student there, right+?)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hi birdie, sorry i didnt get around to answering sooner. </p>
<p>i cant point you towards a specific company or housing site, my friend used to live in a similar one room thing near kyoto university. he paid around 30,000 / month, and it included most stuff. there was no moving in costs either, i believe. very much designed for cheap-ass students. it was however, quite a horribly dirty place. i dont think internet was included either. </p>
<p>if your budget went up to maybe 50,000 you could quite a nice place though still small, and you may also need to think about initial moving in costs like the famous key-money and deposit which is usually around 3 months rent. dont worry too much about washing machine or fridge etc as theyre cheap second hand, not even 5000 yen for both. </p>
<p>theres also accomodation on campus, i believe, but youll have to ask the university about that (i assume you&#8217;ll be a student there, right+?)</p>
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		<title>By: birdie</title>
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		<dc:creator>birdie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jan 2010 06:51:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can anyone inform me what will be the approximate rent for a single room with a private bath, toilet and a kitchen in Kyoto (near Kyoto university)? Are the rooms contain beddings, refrigerator and internet facilities? 
Looking forward to hear from someone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can anyone inform me what will be the approximate rent for a single room with a private bath, toilet and a kitchen in Kyoto (near Kyoto university)? Are the rooms contain beddings, refrigerator and internet facilities?<br />
Looking forward to hear from someone.</p>
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